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Srbi najstariji narod (Iiri,Hapologija,Albanci)

Порука MARIJANAVASILJEVIC 11.10.2009. 20:05

Ciao svima,nisam se ovde prijavila da bih se svadjala ko prica istinu a ko laz vec; zato sto sam primetila da postoji mnogo spekulacija o genetskom nasledju i o znacenju grupa kod nas i u inostranstvu.Na primer http://www.igenea.com (Italija) pokazuje ove rezultate:

Aplogruppi Y in Serbia & Montenegro

I2a 38 %
E1b1b 20 %
R1a 19 %
R1b 14 %
J2 9 %
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Aplogruppi Y in Bosnia-Herzegovina

I2a 44 %
R1a 30 %
E1b1b 15 %
R1b 6 %
J2 5 %
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Aplogruppi Y in Albania

I2a 30 %
R1a 29 %
E1b1b 16 %
J2 15 %
R1b 10 %
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Aplogruppi Y in Croacia

I2a 34 %
R1a 32 %
R1b 18 %
E1b1b 10 %
J2 6 %
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Aplogruppi Y in Mazedonia

I2a 32 %
E1b1b 25 %
J2 20 %
R1a 15 %
R1b 8 %
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Pa da pocnem, gledajuci tumacenja hapologrupa iz stranih izvora ( http://www.eupedia.com )nalazimo ovo:
Haplogroup I (Y-DNA)
I is the oldest haplogroup in Europe and in all probability the only one that originated there (apart from deep subclades of other haplogroups). It is thought to have arrived from the Middle East as haplogroup IJ around 35,000 years ago, and developed into haplogroup I approximately 25,000 years ago....
I2a2 (formerly I1b) is typical of the Dinaric Slavs (Croats, Serbs and Bosniaks). Its highest density is observed around ex-Yugoslavia ...,but it is also common to a lower extent in Albania, Northern Greece...
To je najstarija grupa,pvezuje se za Ilire i najvise iskljucivo za Balkan!!! To je gruppa koju najvise imamo mi na Balkanu.... po vecini svetskih izvora!!! I To je savim dovoljn dokaz da se radi o Ilirima...
I sto je jos zanimljivije radi se o najstarijoj evropskoj grupi.Pazi sad,na podnozju Grcke se stvorila prva evropska civilizacija otprilike 7000 bce....Balkanu bas na tlu Srbije 6000bce!!!
Najstariji gradovi evrope po evropskim izvorima:
7,000 BCE : Choirokoitia (Cyprus)
6,500 BCE : Sesklo (Thessaly, Greece)
6,000 BCE : Starčevo (Serbia)
5,500 BCE : Pločnik (Serbia)
5,000 BCE : Hallstatt (Austria)
5,000 BCE : Bratislava (Slovakia)
4,800 BCE : Dimini (Thessaly, Greece)
4,500 BCE : Glauberg (Hesse, Germany)
3,900 BCE : Michelsberg (Baden, Germany)
3,800 BCE : Dobrovody (Ukraine)
3,700 BCE : Talianki (Ukraine)
3,700 BCE : Maydanets (Ukraine)
3,200 BCE : Skara Brae (Scotland)
3,000 BCE : Troy (Turkey)
3,000 BCE : Akrotiri (Cyprus)
3,000 BCE : Athens (Greece)
2,700 BCE : Knossos (Crete, Greece)
2,300 BCE : Gournia (Greece)
2,000 BCE : Mantua (Italy)
1,900 BCE : Mycenae (Greece)
1,400 BCE : Chania (Crete, Greece)
Do skoro su hapologiju I do skoro najvise vezivali za Vikinge(Skandinavija),danas se saznaje da na Balkanu Srbi nose u sebi najvise I2a2 (sto se vezuje samo za balkan;sto se kao "vezuje" za Ilire,Grke ili A. Romne ..kazu ne znase tacno.Ali to se vidi dobro po rizultatu Italijani je nemaju(samo Sardi),Grci vrlo malo-ZNACI RADI SE O ILIRIMA!).. Ako Bosanci imaju najvise 44%,Srbi 38%,Albanci 30% znaci da svi mi nosimo Ilirsku krv! I to je logicno jer samo mi zivimo na Ilirskoj zemlji..
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Haplogroup E1b1b (Y-DNA) Srbi je imaju 20% !
Haplogroup E1b1b (formerly E3b) represents the last major migration out of Africa into Europe. It is believed to have first appeared in the Horn of Africa or southern Africa approximately 26,000 years ago and dispersed to the Middle East during the Upper Paleolithic and Mesolithic periods.

On the European continent it has the highest concentration in north-west Greece, Albania and Kosovo, then fading around the Balkans, the rest of Greece and Western Turkey. Outside Europe, it is also found in most of the Middle East, northern and eastern Africa, especially in Morocco, Lybia, Egypt Yemen, Somalia, Ethiopia and South Africa...

Haplogroup R1a (Y-DNA) Srbi je imaju 19%!!!
R1a is thought to have been the dominant haplogroup among the Indo-European speakers who evolved into the Indo-Iranian, Mycenaean Greek, Macedonian, Thracian, Baltic and Slavic branches.

The most likely origin of the Proto-Indo-Europeans lies in the Kurgan culture (7000-3000 BCE) and the subsequent Yamna culture (3500-2200 BCE), between modern Ukraine and south-west Russia. Their expansion is linked to the domestication of horses in the Eurasian steppes, and the invention of the chariot (see R1b above)....

Haplogroup R1b (Y-DNA) Srbi je imaju 14% !!!
R1b is the most common haplogroup in Western Europe, reaching over 90% of the population in some parts of western France, northern Spain or Ireland. It is widespread as far as Central Asia and Africa.
Haplogroup R1* might have originated in southern Central Asia (between the Caspian and the Hindu Kush), then developed into R1b* then R1b1* in the northern part of the Middle East during the Ice Age. It presumptively moved to northern Anatolia and across the Caucasus during the early Neolithic, where it became R1b1b. The Near Eastern leftovers evolved into R1b1a (M18), now found at low frequencies among the Lebanese and the Druze.The Phoenicians (who came from modern day Lebanon) spread this R1b1a and R1b1* to their colonies, notably Sardinia and the Maghreb....

Haplogroup J (Y-DNA) Srbi je imaju 9%!!!
J is a Middle Eastern haplogroup, divided into the northern J2 and the southern J1. J2 is by far the most common variety in Europe.

J2 originated in northern Mesopotamia, and spread westward to Anatolia and southern Europe, and eastward to Persia and India. J2 is related to the Ancient Etruscans, (Minoan) Greeks, southern Anatolians, Phoenicians, Assyrians and Babylonians.

In Europe, J2 reaches its highest frequency in Greece (especially in Crete, Peloponese and Thrace), southern and central Italy, southern France, and southern Spain. The ancient Greeks and Phoenicians were the main driving forces behind the spread J2 around the western and southern Mediterranean....
Pa sad sami ocenite.....
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